spicy_guy
08-13 10:22 AM
My suggestion for everyone reading this is - do not send this information to your Company or HR department. They could ask us to table this additional cost. I work for Accenture so I hope that this does not apply to my employer with less than 50% employees on visa. But I'm not going to write to them asking about this because they may turn around asking us to eat this new cost.
How about you? Has anyone contacted their employer already? What are they saying?
Most of the Indian companies (TCS, Wipro, Infy, etc) have more than 50% H1Bs, I believe.
How about you? Has anyone contacted their employer already? What are they saying?
Most of the Indian companies (TCS, Wipro, Infy, etc) have more than 50% H1Bs, I believe.
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dtekkedil
09-14 01:03 PM
Great job Milind!
Keep it up! You should be our "guest of honor" at the rally!
How about we build a "wooden" chair and carry you around at the rally? Not to mention lots of flower garlands! :)
What do you say folks?
Keep it up! You should be our "guest of honor" at the rally!
How about we build a "wooden" chair and carry you around at the rally? Not to mention lots of flower garlands! :)
What do you say folks?
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alterego
07-06 01:33 PM
According to the State Department, from October 1, 2006 through May 30, 2007, the USCIS requested and was authorized the total EB visa numbers of 66,426. Between June 1 and the first few days of July (?), the USCIS requested and was authorized over 60,000 EB visa numbers, in approximately one month. Since it has been made clear by the USCIS that during the last weekend of June (2 days) the USCIS approved 25,000 EB 485 applications, apparently over 40,000 visa numbers were requested and authorized before the weekend. Obviously the 60,000 plus cases must thus have been approved (?) in one month
Source: http://www.immigration-law.com/
66K plus 60K still only makes 126K, do they still have another 20K or so? How does the math tally here?
I think this all boils down to them wanting to clear the 485 backlog without accepting any more 485s all while not wasting any visa numbers for this year.
In an effort to juggle all these issues, they screwed it all up.
Bottom line is they want to streamline the system such that they don't have "unapprovable" 485s in the system. They have caught on to the way the lawyers and us legal immigrants were filing 485s to get our foot in the door then sitting tight for eons. They simply don't want that. They either want you here on a temp. visa or on a green card straightforwardly. Thats what I am getting from all this.
Source: http://www.immigration-law.com/
66K plus 60K still only makes 126K, do they still have another 20K or so? How does the math tally here?
I think this all boils down to them wanting to clear the 485 backlog without accepting any more 485s all while not wasting any visa numbers for this year.
In an effort to juggle all these issues, they screwed it all up.
Bottom line is they want to streamline the system such that they don't have "unapprovable" 485s in the system. They have caught on to the way the lawyers and us legal immigrants were filing 485s to get our foot in the door then sitting tight for eons. They simply don't want that. They either want you here on a temp. visa or on a green card straightforwardly. Thats what I am getting from all this.
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sushilup
07-11 08:38 AM
Hello whitecollarslave,
There are Reciept date or Notice Date?
Thanx
Pause and take a moment to rejoice. Then turn all eyes to processing dates.
TSC July 17 2007
NSC July 28 2007
There are Reciept date or Notice Date?
Thanx
Pause and take a moment to rejoice. Then turn all eyes to processing dates.
TSC July 17 2007
NSC July 28 2007
singhsa3
09-12 10:01 AM
Let us continue a debate on
a) Pros of this idea
b) Cons of this idea
c) Alternative we might have.
Also, please do not get emotionally attach to an idea let democratically select that is best for the community.
Please limit to those ideas that are executable and within the bounds of law.
The campaign will fail in my opinion. Because anytime you ask people to spend money, many will not. Such activity and motivation for the campaign will die out next week when visa bulletin fever is over. We will again get agitated next month same time. So unless we figure out a campaign idea that costs us no money, it is bound to fail. I am for a phone call campaign. Or if we really want to do something big, we should do a rally in DC with 10 thousand members.
That is right. I said before and I am saying again. I am against sending flowers or calculators because.
1. They cost money (Some people may not do that just because of that).
2. USCIS will like those toys for their kids (Please come out of the movie mood, movies impress a lot but they are a lot different from real life). Believe me they will treat these things as wonderful gifts and we will end up spending time and money for these.
3. It will not make any difference to USCIS.
4. USCIS can always redirect all those flowers to orphanage or other places, what they cannot do is redirect our posters trying to put them to shame.
I have been appealing a lot about this. Why do not we have a letter compain along with posters which should put them to shame. These should not only be sent to USCIS, but also to the press, congressmen, president of US and yes the director of USCIS. I have created several posters here.
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_124c6jh9dg6&invite=mqk525
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_127xvp53jdx&invite=cn4gjw5
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_12895rfwtcw&invite=g7kcrzz
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_130cvdpx4cg&invite=7bb9vs
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_132g6jcsffz&invite=hczhh8x
The letter campaign thread is
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21340
Does anybody here agree with me ? Singhsa, your thoughts ?
a) Pros of this idea
b) Cons of this idea
c) Alternative we might have.
Also, please do not get emotionally attach to an idea let democratically select that is best for the community.
Please limit to those ideas that are executable and within the bounds of law.
The campaign will fail in my opinion. Because anytime you ask people to spend money, many will not. Such activity and motivation for the campaign will die out next week when visa bulletin fever is over. We will again get agitated next month same time. So unless we figure out a campaign idea that costs us no money, it is bound to fail. I am for a phone call campaign. Or if we really want to do something big, we should do a rally in DC with 10 thousand members.
That is right. I said before and I am saying again. I am against sending flowers or calculators because.
1. They cost money (Some people may not do that just because of that).
2. USCIS will like those toys for their kids (Please come out of the movie mood, movies impress a lot but they are a lot different from real life). Believe me they will treat these things as wonderful gifts and we will end up spending time and money for these.
3. It will not make any difference to USCIS.
4. USCIS can always redirect all those flowers to orphanage or other places, what they cannot do is redirect our posters trying to put them to shame.
I have been appealing a lot about this. Why do not we have a letter compain along with posters which should put them to shame. These should not only be sent to USCIS, but also to the press, congressmen, president of US and yes the director of USCIS. I have created several posters here.
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_124c6jh9dg6&invite=mqk525
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_127xvp53jdx&invite=cn4gjw5
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_12895rfwtcw&invite=g7kcrzz
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_130cvdpx4cg&invite=7bb9vs
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_132g6jcsffz&invite=hczhh8x
The letter campaign thread is
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21340
Does anybody here agree with me ? Singhsa, your thoughts ?
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indianindian2006
05-03 10:14 PM
This is The call
Don't miss the chance
IV and We suceeded in July, 2 Year EAD and many more ...
Pls pick up the phone and do your bit
IV is YOU and is Your Best Friend
Sure buddy,
did my part twice.....
Thanks
Don't miss the chance
IV and We suceeded in July, 2 Year EAD and many more ...
Pls pick up the phone and do your bit
IV is YOU and is Your Best Friend
Sure buddy,
did my part twice.....
Thanks
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09-12 07:53 PM
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praky
09-11 04:30 PM
Count me in. I think effort will be worth if we have more IV members participating.
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Positive
05-05 08:34 AM
Thank you for all of you who made the calls.
Calls are only the start. Remember, the other side is also doing the same -sometimes outsourcing calls.
Remember we all spend hours in US consulates waiting for our turn. What is now stopping us to make a personal visit. Explaining your story in person is far more effective than a call or an email.
Calls are only the start. Remember, the other side is also doing the same -sometimes outsourcing calls.
Remember we all spend hours in US consulates waiting for our turn. What is now stopping us to make a personal visit. Explaining your story in person is far more effective than a call or an email.
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Macaca
09-14 08:57 PM
A Little-Known Group Claims a Victory on Immigration (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=113489&postcount=730) By ROBERT PEAR (rpear@nytimes.com) | New York Times, July 15, 2007
How Conservatives Enhanced Online Voice (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=98681&postcount=598) - Talk Radio Blends With Blog Postings To Boost Message By JUNE KRONHOLZ (june.kronholz@wsj.com ) and AMY SCHATZ (Amy.Schatz@wsj.com) | The Wall Street Journal, July 3, 2007
Immigration bill ignites grass-roots fire (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=89612&postcount=461) The conservative group NumbersUSA has seen its numbers skyrocket. Activists pressure wavering senators By Nicole Gaouette (nicole.gaouette@latimes.com) | Times Staff Writer, June 24, 2007
Grass Roots Roared and Immigration Plan Collapsed By JULIA PRESTON (juliapreston@nytimes.com) | New York Times, June 10, 2007: 1 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=80626&postcount=203), 2 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=80627&postcount=204)
How Conservatives Enhanced Online Voice (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=98681&postcount=598) - Talk Radio Blends With Blog Postings To Boost Message By JUNE KRONHOLZ (june.kronholz@wsj.com ) and AMY SCHATZ (Amy.Schatz@wsj.com) | The Wall Street Journal, July 3, 2007
Immigration bill ignites grass-roots fire (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=89612&postcount=461) The conservative group NumbersUSA has seen its numbers skyrocket. Activists pressure wavering senators By Nicole Gaouette (nicole.gaouette@latimes.com) | Times Staff Writer, June 24, 2007
Grass Roots Roared and Immigration Plan Collapsed By JULIA PRESTON (juliapreston@nytimes.com) | New York Times, June 10, 2007: 1 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=80626&postcount=203), 2 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=80627&postcount=204)
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whiteStallion
06-25 08:45 PM
Why is loosing such a loosely used word?. Guys, it is losing not loosing. Lose and loose have different meanings.
I'm sure you meant "Loss and loose have different meaning" ! ;)
I'm sure you meant "Loss and loose have different meaning" ! ;)
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h1techSlave
04-17 10:37 AM
Thank you Mr. Hammer.
My question was about H4 + 485 pending? Then what is the status? I have earlier given EAD, but they did not accept that. I am submitting 485 receipt with A#. Let me see how it goes.
EAD is not a visa status. It is an employment authorization document. Of course they will not accept it in lieu of H-1B.
What you need to do is show them the receipt of your I-485 application with the A#.
In my case too he asked me if I was on EAD and I said yes. He said that I should then give him a copy of I-485 receipt. However, since I also maintain H-1B visa, I just gave him that.
My question was about H4 + 485 pending? Then what is the status? I have earlier given EAD, but they did not accept that. I am submitting 485 receipt with A#. Let me see how it goes.
EAD is not a visa status. It is an employment authorization document. Of course they will not accept it in lieu of H-1B.
What you need to do is show them the receipt of your I-485 application with the A#.
In my case too he asked me if I was on EAD and I said yes. He said that I should then give him a copy of I-485 receipt. However, since I also maintain H-1B visa, I just gave him that.
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dipmay2002
09-07 01:37 PM
Today I completed 10 years in USA and still waiting for GC, PD Dec. 2004 EB3...:confused:
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billu
09-04 08:33 AM
I think there is more smartness needed than luck in the greencard process. If you look at the posts in this thread there are some people that came to USA in 1990s and still waiting, while some that came much later are on their way to citizenship. Some got the EB2 route and are happy and some in EB3 have only gloom before them.
This in my opinion has helped smart folks among us:
- They applied for GC as soon as possible. Those who waited did not give importance to Greencard as soon as they started a job in USA are now paying for their mistakes. During the initial days of career I have seen people saying that GC is not important to them etc but when their H1B is about to expire they panic and get desperate for Green Card.
- Before pre-PERM era in 2005, smart folks took up jobs in states where labor certification had no backlog. They are now either waiting for citizenship or already citizens. On the other hand people in states like CA, NY etc suffered due to labor backlogs and far from getting greencard in hand.
- Any company can be good or bad for an individual. It it not a question of consulting vs fortune 500 or small vs big size of a company. Smart folks know what matters them the most when they join a company. When company sees them as a valuable asset, it applies for them. I have seen where company applied for GC as soon as the employee joined it. And I have seen posts where people had to wait for several years before company applied.
- People who took advantage of the Labor substitution got faster labors. Some could take advantage of EB2 labors and they are very fortunate. This is in no way endorsing the labor substitution rule, but in pre 2007 times nobody was protesting against it. This is a sad reality.
- Smart folks took the risk and changed jobs wth EB2 job requirements, so that they can file in EB2. Such folks with 2007 PD are happy today and people with 2003 PDs in EB3 will have to wait for a long time.
- If you read posts on this thread, many people have posted that they feel they are being screwed by their employer or lawyer. But hardly anyone has said they took any action against it. This is also a sad reality where we as a community have failed and will continue to suffer.
- Many folks have said that they thought they were in EB2. But found they are in EB3. This shows another weakness of our community and lack of awareness. IV forum tries to spread the awareness but unless an individual takes initiative, they will suffer.
Many people were able to file I485 in July 2007 due to IV effort. Imagine a 2004 EB3 India person without EAD today? How will he survive a job loss on H1B in a bad economy? We should take a lesson from that event and try for another big push. There is no other shortcut for us. It is shocking to find people on this thread that are in this country for more than 10 years and without a green card. These folks should be the most vocal folks in this effort.
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great analysis of the GC queue. Those who missed the july 2007 boat (despite working here)or those who started GC 2-3 years after starting a job have themselves to blame. I am one of them. Also, I have several friends who are working on h1b with ridiculous contracts with no sign of GC being filed. They are blissfully ignorant of the GC mess despite my warnings. Each year thousands of students still come from India on F1 and most of them later file h1b and GC. I wish they were made aware of this mess. Most of us have the famous "chalta hai" attitude of india that smirks of no farsightedness or pre-planning due to which we are in this mess, especially folks on EB3.
This in my opinion has helped smart folks among us:
- They applied for GC as soon as possible. Those who waited did not give importance to Greencard as soon as they started a job in USA are now paying for their mistakes. During the initial days of career I have seen people saying that GC is not important to them etc but when their H1B is about to expire they panic and get desperate for Green Card.
- Before pre-PERM era in 2005, smart folks took up jobs in states where labor certification had no backlog. They are now either waiting for citizenship or already citizens. On the other hand people in states like CA, NY etc suffered due to labor backlogs and far from getting greencard in hand.
- Any company can be good or bad for an individual. It it not a question of consulting vs fortune 500 or small vs big size of a company. Smart folks know what matters them the most when they join a company. When company sees them as a valuable asset, it applies for them. I have seen where company applied for GC as soon as the employee joined it. And I have seen posts where people had to wait for several years before company applied.
- People who took advantage of the Labor substitution got faster labors. Some could take advantage of EB2 labors and they are very fortunate. This is in no way endorsing the labor substitution rule, but in pre 2007 times nobody was protesting against it. This is a sad reality.
- Smart folks took the risk and changed jobs wth EB2 job requirements, so that they can file in EB2. Such folks with 2007 PD are happy today and people with 2003 PDs in EB3 will have to wait for a long time.
- If you read posts on this thread, many people have posted that they feel they are being screwed by their employer or lawyer. But hardly anyone has said they took any action against it. This is also a sad reality where we as a community have failed and will continue to suffer.
- Many folks have said that they thought they were in EB2. But found they are in EB3. This shows another weakness of our community and lack of awareness. IV forum tries to spread the awareness but unless an individual takes initiative, they will suffer.
Many people were able to file I485 in July 2007 due to IV effort. Imagine a 2004 EB3 India person without EAD today? How will he survive a job loss on H1B in a bad economy? We should take a lesson from that event and try for another big push. There is no other shortcut for us. It is shocking to find people on this thread that are in this country for more than 10 years and without a green card. These folks should be the most vocal folks in this effort.
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great analysis of the GC queue. Those who missed the july 2007 boat (despite working here)or those who started GC 2-3 years after starting a job have themselves to blame. I am one of them. Also, I have several friends who are working on h1b with ridiculous contracts with no sign of GC being filed. They are blissfully ignorant of the GC mess despite my warnings. Each year thousands of students still come from India on F1 and most of them later file h1b and GC. I wish they were made aware of this mess. Most of us have the famous "chalta hai" attitude of india that smirks of no farsightedness or pre-planning due to which we are in this mess, especially folks on EB3.
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Ramba
10-21 06:18 PM
Thanks Ramba for your insights.
Whatever the reasons - its apparent USCIS is not following the AC21 regulations and it is not fair. I believe, AC21 regulations are made with an objective of improving immigration rules for 21st century (and thus the name American Competetiveness for 21st century) and provide some mobility for the applicants while their GC applications are pending. The delay in application processing is still relevant (actually its more severe) - irrespective of whether its caused by processing or because of lack of visa numbers. AC21 regulations never mentioned about the origin of delay or the longivity of applicant with original company. Changing interpretation of a rule they made, that too without notice is unfair and maybe even unlawful.
So far I was thinking that its a case of misinformed IO rejecting I485 once they see a I140 revocation. But rejecting MTR on the grounds that employee has left the company on his/her own and so does not have intent of continuing in the job is just plain twisting of their own rules. And we need a much bigger effort - if its a case of a few misinformed USCIS employees incorrectly rejecting I485 - then it could have been fixed with a low key effort that we are doing. We are seeing more rejections based on unknown "interpretations" - and even MTR getting rejected - it kind of gives a feeling that they have a bigger agenda here and we need to fight on a bigger scale.
If a guy lawfully changed the job after 180 days of 485 filing, it is remain valid even if employer revokes already approved 140. Only solution to overcome this MTR, is taking this to court. In the case of dispute between employee and employer regarding "intent", the employee will have more leverage if he had a considerable period of employment relationship sponsor.
Whatever the reasons - its apparent USCIS is not following the AC21 regulations and it is not fair. I believe, AC21 regulations are made with an objective of improving immigration rules for 21st century (and thus the name American Competetiveness for 21st century) and provide some mobility for the applicants while their GC applications are pending. The delay in application processing is still relevant (actually its more severe) - irrespective of whether its caused by processing or because of lack of visa numbers. AC21 regulations never mentioned about the origin of delay or the longivity of applicant with original company. Changing interpretation of a rule they made, that too without notice is unfair and maybe even unlawful.
So far I was thinking that its a case of misinformed IO rejecting I485 once they see a I140 revocation. But rejecting MTR on the grounds that employee has left the company on his/her own and so does not have intent of continuing in the job is just plain twisting of their own rules. And we need a much bigger effort - if its a case of a few misinformed USCIS employees incorrectly rejecting I485 - then it could have been fixed with a low key effort that we are doing. We are seeing more rejections based on unknown "interpretations" - and even MTR getting rejected - it kind of gives a feeling that they have a bigger agenda here and we need to fight on a bigger scale.
If a guy lawfully changed the job after 180 days of 485 filing, it is remain valid even if employer revokes already approved 140. Only solution to overcome this MTR, is taking this to court. In the case of dispute between employee and employer regarding "intent", the employee will have more leverage if he had a considerable period of employment relationship sponsor.
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07-23 12:05 AM
OK!
Where are you schedule A? Come on, join this forum, share your opinion and propositions!
Do all agree that "bridge bill" is the only real helpful measure for us? Or you can show us some other ways?
I mean let's set at least one goal!
After that we can establish what we have, and how we can make it real.
Anyway, it might be quite difficult to organise such a work group, because the majourity of schedule A are outside the US, and on CP... But we all have our emploiers and attorneis who could help us to lobby our interests in the US.
What do you think about it?
WELL SAID CHISINAU
Where are you schedule A? Come on, join this forum, share your opinion and propositions!
Do all agree that "bridge bill" is the only real helpful measure for us? Or you can show us some other ways?
I mean let's set at least one goal!
After that we can establish what we have, and how we can make it real.
Anyway, it might be quite difficult to organise such a work group, because the majourity of schedule A are outside the US, and on CP... But we all have our emploiers and attorneis who could help us to lobby our interests in the US.
What do you think about it?
WELL SAID CHISINAU
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a1b2c3
08-16 08:13 PM
Thanks for posting the doc. What is the source of this doc?
ksrk
09-10 05:57 PM
Considering 7% country quota and 26.7% EB2 quota of 140k, we get 2800 visa for EB2 annually. For first month this number comes out to be 234. Considering 1.2 dependents this means 106 families get GC under EB2.
I am sure they have more than 106 cases before the cutoff of 1 April 2003. This may also include people delayed by background checks.
Hi Sachug22,
I think the calculation is made this way...
Total EB2 numbers = 28.6% of total number = 40040 (for all countries)
Available each quarter = 10010
However, per country allocation can't exceed 7% (of total number allowed per quarter, not of the 28.6%) - limits to 2450 <-- each for India and China.
Applying 7% of 28.6% of one quarter of 140000 (as you did) is severely restrictive (not that 2450 is a great number per quarter for the first and second quaters of the fiscal year).
Either way, your point might still hold that there are enough folks waiting (with PD prior to April '03) to account for these in October '08.
[In the hope that some analysis like this might release the pressure set upon by the latest announcement...]
I am sure they have more than 106 cases before the cutoff of 1 April 2003. This may also include people delayed by background checks.
Hi Sachug22,
I think the calculation is made this way...
Total EB2 numbers = 28.6% of total number = 40040 (for all countries)
Available each quarter = 10010
However, per country allocation can't exceed 7% (of total number allowed per quarter, not of the 28.6%) - limits to 2450 <-- each for India and China.
Applying 7% of 28.6% of one quarter of 140000 (as you did) is severely restrictive (not that 2450 is a great number per quarter for the first and second quaters of the fiscal year).
Either way, your point might still hold that there are enough folks waiting (with PD prior to April '03) to account for these in October '08.
[In the hope that some analysis like this might release the pressure set upon by the latest announcement...]
unseenguy
02-11 01:21 AM
I am still waiting to see your contribution....Do you need any help to write the check
get lost. If you contributed, thats enough. Just do your job and others will do theirs.
get lost. If you contributed, thats enough. Just do your job and others will do theirs.
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