chiecoli
02-13 07:54 PM
factory man dont talk non-sense!!!!!! what is the goal your trying to achive!!!!! will you get anything????? tell us! if we suceed in preventing the release of 90,000 visa for scheduled A (nurses and PT. do you think they would allocate these visa for H1B... i dont think so factory man.
factory man just always look at both sides of the coin.
HLG is also firmly committed to EB relief for other classes -- such as the reform pushed by the SKIL Bill proponents, AILA, immigrationvoice, and other like minded groups � and is actively lobbying for those reforms as well. Our experience in advocacy is that the worst thing that can happen is that like minded groups pull others down. We've never talked to a Congressional staffer who believes that there is a "zero-sum" of immigrant visas. Our opinion is that we should all work together to help all visa classes, and that no one who wants EB visa reform should lobby against, say, a Schedule A carve-out.
Those commentors in favor of immigration reform should also recognize that a Schedule A carve-out helps ALL EB visa applicants by taking visas out of the general EB3 visa classification. In other words, every EB3 applicant moves that much closer to the end of retrogression.
STOP ACTING LIKE A CRAB (GET RID OF THE CRAB MENTALITY)
remember "ENVY IS ONE THE MOST DEADLIEST SIN"
factory man just always look at both sides of the coin.
HLG is also firmly committed to EB relief for other classes -- such as the reform pushed by the SKIL Bill proponents, AILA, immigrationvoice, and other like minded groups � and is actively lobbying for those reforms as well. Our experience in advocacy is that the worst thing that can happen is that like minded groups pull others down. We've never talked to a Congressional staffer who believes that there is a "zero-sum" of immigrant visas. Our opinion is that we should all work together to help all visa classes, and that no one who wants EB visa reform should lobby against, say, a Schedule A carve-out.
Those commentors in favor of immigration reform should also recognize that a Schedule A carve-out helps ALL EB visa applicants by taking visas out of the general EB3 visa classification. In other words, every EB3 applicant moves that much closer to the end of retrogression.
STOP ACTING LIKE A CRAB (GET RID OF THE CRAB MENTALITY)
remember "ENVY IS ONE THE MOST DEADLIEST SIN"
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apnair2002
07-05 12:50 PM
To core IV team members,
Do we are sending any "thank you faxes "to the congress man who orginates the skill bill?
Do we are sending any "thank you faxes "to the congress man who orginates the skill bill?
another one
06-26 02:08 PM
i thought a simple majority i.e. >50 would make the bill pass through senate. is that not true?
Its only going to take 5 people to break away from the 64. Those 35 "No" votes are the ones who want CIR dead NOW. They are not going to change. But those 64, its only going to take 5 people to walk away.
There are 24 amendments. I think atleast 5 people would see their amendments fail on the floor of the house and probably another 5 atleast who would withdraw support because someone else's amendment passed. This baby is going DOWWWNNN this weekend per my estimate. I could be wrong but again, 24 amendments ? That's too many darts on a fragile compromise.
Its only going to take 5 people to break away from the 64. Those 35 "No" votes are the ones who want CIR dead NOW. They are not going to change. But those 64, its only going to take 5 people to walk away.
There are 24 amendments. I think atleast 5 people would see their amendments fail on the floor of the house and probably another 5 atleast who would withdraw support because someone else's amendment passed. This baby is going DOWWWNNN this weekend per my estimate. I could be wrong but again, 24 amendments ? That's too many darts on a fragile compromise.
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kerstbrd
09-21 01:55 PM
I guess the cat is out of the bag. Yes, I got my greencard a few weeks ago. Yes, my PD is early 2004.
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gc78
05-01 03:13 PM
Just made a $100 contribution. Receipt ID: 5GJ663284A268972P.
santb1975
06-26 05:31 PM
Please co-ordinate with Nixstor on this
I am willing to do it. I did call up the local senators and congresspeople about supporting the bills. I have asked the GM of my company to give me some political contacts (am still waiting on him) since he had recently gone to DC to do some lobbying for small businesses. Let me check in the DC/MD forum and figure out who we should target/meet.
I am willing to do it. I did call up the local senators and congresspeople about supporting the bills. I have asked the GM of my company to give me some political contacts (am still waiting on him) since he had recently gone to DC to do some lobbying for small businesses. Let me check in the DC/MD forum and figure out who we should target/meet.
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anzerraja
07-20 03:15 AM
Lately the members of IV have come to know that Aman Kapoor, the co-founder of IV has sold his house and spent around $64000/- towards the administrative costs of IV. This too was brought to our attention from a regular member like you and me, without which this would not have come to our knowledge at all.
So some of the members have taken an initiative to reimburse Aman and other core IV team members with the expenses they have incurred so far towards the administrative costs of IV. Note that the time they have spent and the sufferings cannot be compensated. Let us do the least by atleast compensating the money. Please do not donate directly to IV funds.
There is a funding drive in this other thread towards reimbursing the administrative costs of IV.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
So some of the members have taken an initiative to reimburse Aman and other core IV team members with the expenses they have incurred so far towards the administrative costs of IV. Note that the time they have spent and the sufferings cannot be compensated. Let us do the least by atleast compensating the money. Please do not donate directly to IV funds.
There is a funding drive in this other thread towards reimbursing the administrative costs of IV.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
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asanghi
09-19 05:02 PM
To everyone who thinks rallies dont make a difference, as described here : http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13583
This is not an attack post. Or a criticizing post. This is purely educational and please keep this thread clean.
I know there are many out there who are snickering in their cubicles looking at the pictures of the rally and thinking "Look at these idiots, they think Congress will pass SKIL bill because they walked 1.2 miles with some placards and banners".
Such thinking is reasonable. But only if you dont know how things work.
Here is why rally of Sept 18th will be consequential:
1. When you do a rally, people notice. People recognize organization and measure its strength. It stays in their heads for a long time and they keep Immigration Voice as one of the organizations they can ask for support when they push for their own cause. In Congress, things work based on compromise, consensus and consultation. People dont just sponsor legislations they believe in. They run it thru their caucus and leadership and do a vote count. To find out how many votes would they get if they came up with this new idea. Whether it will get 218 votes in House. Whether they will get 51 votes in senate. If its filibuster proof and get 61 votes in Senate. Whether it has committee support. Whether leadership offices are in agreement to put it in schedule. All this happens in background and there are people who are hired in committees just to do vote counts on proposed ideas. IF it turns out they dont find enough support, they drop it. If they think they can pull it off, they approach leadership (Speaker in House, Maj leader in Senate) to put it in queue.
2. Let us say that Congressman X wants to sponser SKIL bill because of his constituency or a senator (like Feinstein) wants to sponsor AgJobs because food growers are having food rotten in absence of agricultural workers, a compelling cause. Now, when they want to pass legislation, they have to look for support and votes as described in item 1. When they fall short, they find ways to sweeten the pot. IF they see that a powerful organization will throw in their support and lobbying in favor of their bill if they attach a few of that organization's provisions, then they approach them. Immigration Voice did 138 lawmakers meetings (in House and Senate). They did the rally. They would consider IV as a organization that can help them PUSH for their legislation. Now we have a place at the negotiating table. If they attach our provisions (like recapture, or GC quota increase), then we can promise to do something for them. Like support the entire bill they are pushing for. They know that we can do rallies and we can do hundreds of lawmaker meetings. If Diane Feinstein (just an example) thinks that by adding skilled employment based reform provisions she can get IV's support and swing a few votes to help her pass her favorite AgJobs bill, then we have opportunity where the Senator would ask us what we want rather than us going and asking them to do things for us. One of IV members said that on the day of the rally, suddenly the office of her senator called her and scheduled and appointment to meet the same day at 4:00 PM. She had been trying to get the appointment but after they rally and Roll call newspaper ad (http://immigrationvoice.org/media/forums/iv/rollcal3a.pdf), they called her to listen to her. I heard about this from her just as the rally was over.
3. CIR has recently failed. From some meetings, I got the feeling that CIR's failure has left a bad taste in mouth and many people in Congress as well as administration are very upset about it still. Now that we have done this rally, done lawmaker meetings, put a rollcall ad, did the media blitz, press conference, congressional reception (where 4 congressmen attended and spoke in IV's support), they know that it would be a good idea to keep IV on their side and put some of their things in a bill. Next time they write a bill (behind closed doors very often), they will consult us and ask us if they can do something for IV to win IV's full support. That's because by getting IV's support on their side for whatever they are doing, they can be assured that we wont oppose it but instead support it. With phone calls, Rallies, paid ads, lawmaker meetings etc. If they are really investing in getting a bill passed, they would include our provisions just to increase the odds.
Strength respects strength. If we have the strength to do things and make a difference (rallies, meetings, receptions, press conferences, paid ads), then that strength begets more strenght because other powers want us to join hands with them so that they can do their favorite things (AgJobs, DREAM etc).
I thought the rally helps bring attention to our cause and put pressure. I never knew so many things go on behind the scenes.
I think by the time we get our green cards, we all will be experts in the nitty gritty of American Politics
This is not an attack post. Or a criticizing post. This is purely educational and please keep this thread clean.
I know there are many out there who are snickering in their cubicles looking at the pictures of the rally and thinking "Look at these idiots, they think Congress will pass SKIL bill because they walked 1.2 miles with some placards and banners".
Such thinking is reasonable. But only if you dont know how things work.
Here is why rally of Sept 18th will be consequential:
1. When you do a rally, people notice. People recognize organization and measure its strength. It stays in their heads for a long time and they keep Immigration Voice as one of the organizations they can ask for support when they push for their own cause. In Congress, things work based on compromise, consensus and consultation. People dont just sponsor legislations they believe in. They run it thru their caucus and leadership and do a vote count. To find out how many votes would they get if they came up with this new idea. Whether it will get 218 votes in House. Whether they will get 51 votes in senate. If its filibuster proof and get 61 votes in Senate. Whether it has committee support. Whether leadership offices are in agreement to put it in schedule. All this happens in background and there are people who are hired in committees just to do vote counts on proposed ideas. IF it turns out they dont find enough support, they drop it. If they think they can pull it off, they approach leadership (Speaker in House, Maj leader in Senate) to put it in queue.
2. Let us say that Congressman X wants to sponser SKIL bill because of his constituency or a senator (like Feinstein) wants to sponsor AgJobs because food growers are having food rotten in absence of agricultural workers, a compelling cause. Now, when they want to pass legislation, they have to look for support and votes as described in item 1. When they fall short, they find ways to sweeten the pot. IF they see that a powerful organization will throw in their support and lobbying in favor of their bill if they attach a few of that organization's provisions, then they approach them. Immigration Voice did 138 lawmakers meetings (in House and Senate). They did the rally. They would consider IV as a organization that can help them PUSH for their legislation. Now we have a place at the negotiating table. If they attach our provisions (like recapture, or GC quota increase), then we can promise to do something for them. Like support the entire bill they are pushing for. They know that we can do rallies and we can do hundreds of lawmaker meetings. If Diane Feinstein (just an example) thinks that by adding skilled employment based reform provisions she can get IV's support and swing a few votes to help her pass her favorite AgJobs bill, then we have opportunity where the Senator would ask us what we want rather than us going and asking them to do things for us. One of IV members said that on the day of the rally, suddenly the office of her senator called her and scheduled and appointment to meet the same day at 4:00 PM. She had been trying to get the appointment but after they rally and Roll call newspaper ad (http://immigrationvoice.org/media/forums/iv/rollcal3a.pdf), they called her to listen to her. I heard about this from her just as the rally was over.
3. CIR has recently failed. From some meetings, I got the feeling that CIR's failure has left a bad taste in mouth and many people in Congress as well as administration are very upset about it still. Now that we have done this rally, done lawmaker meetings, put a rollcall ad, did the media blitz, press conference, congressional reception (where 4 congressmen attended and spoke in IV's support), they know that it would be a good idea to keep IV on their side and put some of their things in a bill. Next time they write a bill (behind closed doors very often), they will consult us and ask us if they can do something for IV to win IV's full support. That's because by getting IV's support on their side for whatever they are doing, they can be assured that we wont oppose it but instead support it. With phone calls, Rallies, paid ads, lawmaker meetings etc. If they are really investing in getting a bill passed, they would include our provisions just to increase the odds.
Strength respects strength. If we have the strength to do things and make a difference (rallies, meetings, receptions, press conferences, paid ads), then that strength begets more strenght because other powers want us to join hands with them so that they can do their favorite things (AgJobs, DREAM etc).
I thought the rally helps bring attention to our cause and put pressure. I never knew so many things go on behind the scenes.
I think by the time we get our green cards, we all will be experts in the nitty gritty of American Politics
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paskal
09-22 11:48 AM
I really dont know what the purpose of this thread is, or whether it accomplishes anything.
It seems to be doing more harm than good.
if the movers of this thread have no objection i would like to close it.
i hope though in the meanwhile we can turn the discussion to more productive directions. there is much to be done yet.
It seems to be doing more harm than good.
if the movers of this thread have no objection i would like to close it.
i hope though in the meanwhile we can turn the discussion to more productive directions. there is much to be done yet.
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chanduv23
12-10 11:16 AM
Check this thread
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=16004
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logiclife
06-30 12:28 PM
Here is the Press release from his office (http://johnshadegg.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=46437)
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GotGC??
11-14 08:27 PM
Yes, now is the time to act!
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BharatPremi
09-20 03:37 PM
What's the incentive in becoming a State chapter member?
What's the incentive for IV having you as a member?
What's the incentive for IV having you as a member?
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alex99
07-20 10:46 AM
please advice....
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gk_2000
03-27 10:14 AM
In real life, when resources become less and scarce - even blood relatives fight and kill each other. We here don't even know each other.
Joker from "The Dark Knight" said the same thing. Leave this pattern of thinking. United we stand and divided we fall. I am not talking ONLY to you here.....
Joker from "The Dark Knight" said the same thing. Leave this pattern of thinking. United we stand and divided we fall. I am not talking ONLY to you here.....
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walking_dude
10-05 08:48 AM
Troy is fine with me. Unless someone has a pressing reason (other than geographical location) lets stick to the time and venue.
Please update the first post with venue and timings in big and bold letters ( I used 'Arial Black', Size 5, Bold below)
IV MI Meet
Location : Troy Recreation Center, Troy ( Livernois b/n Big Beaver and Wattles)
Address : 3179 Livernois, Troy, MI 48083 ( courtesy Google)
Time : 10:00 am sharp ( no ISTs)
Agenda : Discuss future actions - Lawmaker meetings, publicity campaign, getting attorneys to answer GC questions pro bono etc.
Ok so we have a place in mind?
I suggest Troy. It will be center to all?
On 10-20 at 10:00 Am we can meet at Troy recreation center. This is on Livernois road, between Big beaver and 17 mile(wattles).
Or if you have more fitting place in mind, please suggest.
All that can make it, please update your personal information on your account here.
Please update the first post with venue and timings in big and bold letters ( I used 'Arial Black', Size 5, Bold below)
IV MI Meet
Location : Troy Recreation Center, Troy ( Livernois b/n Big Beaver and Wattles)
Address : 3179 Livernois, Troy, MI 48083 ( courtesy Google)
Time : 10:00 am sharp ( no ISTs)
Agenda : Discuss future actions - Lawmaker meetings, publicity campaign, getting attorneys to answer GC questions pro bono etc.
Ok so we have a place in mind?
I suggest Troy. It will be center to all?
On 10-20 at 10:00 Am we can meet at Troy recreation center. This is on Livernois road, between Big beaver and 17 mile(wattles).
Or if you have more fitting place in mind, please suggest.
All that can make it, please update your personal information on your account here.
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irma05
02-26 04:09 PM
Hi !!
3 more letters to Bush & IV;)
3 more letters to Bush & IV;)
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mallickarjunreddy
07-06 09:58 AM
I dont know about good ones
but i read the whole post and came out with the not so good ones and i started this blog
just as a reference
http://badimmigrationattorneys.blogspot.com/
but i read the whole post and came out with the not so good ones and i started this blog
just as a reference
http://badimmigrationattorneys.blogspot.com/
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Totoro
05-20 07:01 PM
Indeed it makes no sense that people who have families to support get nothing, while those who do not have families get it.
Anyway, it is not over yet. I have been able to get congress to approve checks for military families, so anything is possible.
Anyway, it is not over yet. I have been able to get congress to approve checks for military families, so anything is possible.
anilsal
11-24 01:48 PM
Credit cards are issued mostly to GC holders only unless they have a checking account as well with the institution-unless one lies in the application. You are also presuming a 100% credit worthiness and sign up rate - extremely optimistic. This would work when IV is about a million strong and if people like you and me become 'resident' aliens - and dont turn our backs on those behind us.
Many banks in the US will not allow you to add additional accounts like CD account etc ONLINE unless you are a GC holder or a citizen. They ask you to go to a branch to open an account. This is even when YOU are an account holder with the bank for a number of years.
One way of supporting IV and feeling good is to buy some IV merchandise.
http://www.cafepress.com/immivoice
Many banks in the US will not allow you to add additional accounts like CD account etc ONLINE unless you are a GC holder or a citizen. They ask you to go to a branch to open an account. This is even when YOU are an account holder with the bank for a number of years.
One way of supporting IV and feeling good is to buy some IV merchandise.
http://www.cafepress.com/immivoice
gbof
06-11 08:21 AM
My PD of 12 Oct 05 is 'So near yet so far' will be missing aug VB. Dates are only going to move forward from here onward and NOT going to retrogress as predicted by our learned members...
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